The Extemporaneous Style # 3 - Pepsi Challenge

Welcome to the Paranoid Style Podcast! It's time for another Extemporaneous Style episode. This time we attempt to stir up some reality TV level drama, take the Pepsi Challenge, and try to dig up Jimmy Hoffa. From Anno Domini to the Common Era, from a dump in New Jersey to Giants Stadium, from Diet Coke to vegetarian bacon in the dark. We're serving up the worst podcast concepts west of the Mississipp with a big, tall glass of Beverly! 

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Transcript

[00:00:31] Hey sister, hey there sister and hey again listeners. It's one of your favorite type of episodes. The extemporaneous style. We're Flying Blind.

And I'm Amanda and I have never seen a [00:00:46] single second of the television programs, The Bachelor or The Bachelorette. My name is Christine and I have not either. I do like reality TV shows but I don't like the messy parts of reality TV shows and I think that's [00:01:01] why I haven't seen The Bachelor because it's all messy Parts. Like I'm gonna go 90% of people. They probably watch reality TV strictly for the messy Parts. I don't know how.

Ow, because, like, for example, I'm currently watching Ink Masters. [00:01:16] Mmm, and I've never seen any, so I started from the beginning and there's like on an out 13 Seasons or something like that. I have now learned that I just fast-forward to the parts, the non-competition. Yes, because I don't want to hear people arguing. [00:01:31] Yeah, and it's just, it drives me crazy and it ruins it for me, but I like to see them do the tattoos and comment on the tattoo. Yeah, so Ink Masters of bad example because there is a lot of drama on

Come out. Oh, yeah, but do you remember was the show called face off [00:01:46] with the special? Oh my God, that was such a good show and I felt like they minimize drama between the cast members. Like I really feel like it was like everyone was sort of really supportive of each other and it was just all about like [00:02:01] doing the makeups and doing the latex masks. And yeah, and that's why I like shows like making it or even Lego Masters. Great British Bake Off. Yes, ones where

Is kind of nice. Yeah, like where you're like, we're all in the same [00:02:16] boat. Yeah. No, we're competing against each other, but we're all kind of we're all turned on by the same things, obviously. Like we all like to bake or we like to do Legos or but maybe, you know, maybe we could push ourselves out of the comfort zone and get a bit more drama [00:02:31] in the extemporaneous style. Let's see. I'm trying to think of how I can start some drama. My cats are cuter than your cat. You go to hell, you go straight to hell.

And speaking of drama. I'm just kidding. [00:02:46] This this there's nothing dramatic about this. I'm bringing back a little segment. Oh man, we thought of when we said we were going to do these extemporaneous ones, which was like the correction is what of our mistakes. Yes, and we were going to call it a sus on of soup cons, [00:03:01] or I was going to call it a soupcon of soup cons because I can never remember how to say it correctly. So our Sous on of soup cons. It's not technically a correction. We didn't technically

Do something wrong, but we did something that I wanted [00:03:16] to address. Yes. And specifically this was in the Phantom time hypothesis episode. And the thing that we did in that episode is I consistently and throughout the whole thing referred to dates as being [00:03:31] either BC or a d, right? So BC, meaning before Christ and AD standing for anno domini, which

In the year of Our Lord, or in the year of the Lord. I wanted [00:03:46] to bring this up. I wanted to address it because we know that that is no longer, the terms that are used, they've decided to come up with more neutral or inclusive terms, because, you know, not everyone's a Christian yet. Like it's as just as obvious as that there [00:04:01] are plenty of historians archaeologists, whatever that do not follow this idea that there was ever a figure called Christ and that we should somehow be basing. Our timeline on this.

Person who may or may not have even existed and who may or may not be my [00:04:16] personal Lord, Our Savior, right? But even though I knew that this was not the most neutral term to use, I still used it exclusively in that episode because so much of the point of the episode was that the Catholic Church set this [00:04:31] standard of chronology that we still refer to today. Obviously, the more accepted terms, the more neutral terms that are used today are BCE which

Hands for Before Common Era and Cee which [00:04:46] stands for Common Era. But I will say that I mean, and I think you are going to dispute me on this, but I'm almost positive that despite the fact that they came up with these more neutral terms. It's still based on the chronology [00:05:01] that kind of places the birth of Christ as the like starting point and ending point like year one, correct. And actually I wasn't gonna dispute that I was

That is what it's based on, I think. Yeah, so it's kind of funny that they're like, oh, [00:05:16] well, we need to come up with, you know, more like neutral terms and you did, but it's still based on the birth of a magical baby. Yeah. What I wonder is what is before Christ? Actually, because that's English. So what is the b word? Yeah, [00:05:31] that's actually a really good point. I have no idea. Yeah, why is on no domini in Latin which makes sense? But BC I can't find anything. I mean everything says before

Christ. Yeah, but does that mean that they didn't call it BC [00:05:46] and AD until English? Well, yeah, I mean, I guess it wouldn't have been implemented until the fifteen hundreds, right? Is that when it was implemented, when they switched over to the Julie, Julie the Gregorian calendar, when they switch from the Julian calendar to the Gregorian calendar and this is out [00:06:01] of Wikipedia. The anno domini dating system was devised and 525 by dionysius exiguus to enumerate. The years in his Easter table. He doesn't sound like he speaks English though. No.

He doesn't that is so weird. I never even thought about that. Yeah, [00:06:16] and it's also weird because I don't see where they talk about where BC started to be used if any Scholars are listening. Okay. This is interesting. Traditionally. The abbreviation AD is placed before the year number. Oh and [00:06:31] BC is always placed after the year number. So for instance, it would be a D20 21 but 68 BC. That was another thing we talked about when we recorded and we just changed it all to just go after.

Year so weird because I swear, I would swear that I've almost [00:06:46] always heard people use it 16:23 ad, not the other way around. Although if it's funny though, because if you say the Latin, as it stands, like in the year of Our Lord 2021 is, I just wanted to mention that because I realize, BC [00:07:01] and AD, is kind of a, it's outdated. People aren't really using it as much. But for that episode, I made a choice. I made an executive decision that it made the most sense just to

To go with it. And I think it was the right decision because we were talking about [00:07:16] Catholicism, any other soup cons that we wanted to address. It was pointed out to me that in our last extemporaneous style. We talked about a muumuu and I think at some point [00:07:31] in the episode we said that a mu a mu a came from outside the Galaxy, but it didn't. It came from outside the solar system. So it was

Still from within the Galaxy but not in the solar system. Yes. [00:07:46] Now that you say that it absolutely a hundred percent Rings true. And I and you're absolutely right. Yeah, when I was told I hundred percent believe that to be correct, but at the same time, I also don't know anything about space, but I know it is [00:08:01] weird because in my head, I do equate them as being the same thing like dude our solar system is the Milky Way, you know, our solar system is within the galaxy known as The Milky Way, so

It's us and our collection of 8/9 [00:08:16] planets, right? If you count the, do you know what I'm talking about? Apparently, some people believe that there's another planet behind Jupiter, because I go it's like so far away from the Sun that it's difficult to. And the only reason they think [00:08:31] that that is the truth is because of the orbit of the various moons around. Jupiter is what I think probably needs its own episode. Maybe who knows what lives on that.

Annette, I mean I would like to hear more about the yeah, I'll look it up for next time. [00:08:46] Okay. That was totally just a boneheaded. Definitely a Miss. Uncon. Yeah, definitely a soupcon, but we appreciate it. When you point those out to us. We're big dumb dumbs. We won't know. Unless you tell us, we will not know unless you had our nose [00:09:01] with a newspaper. We won't know. So, if you'd like to tell us something about a correction, a comment, something we're doing right something where we could improve on fuel.

Free to hit us up on Instagram at the paranoid style [00:09:16] pod. The episode that we just released was about project. Kansas AKA New Coke conspiracy, which is interesting because I knew just in general, terms about the new Coke conspiracy, but I had no [00:09:31] idea that Coca-Cola had this whole like project name behind it. In hindsight. It makes sense that they would set up this, you know, yeah, I had no idea and they had a whole bunch of these different projects.

The project for Diet Coke project Harvard, I think that one was [00:09:46] the one for tab and it makes sense because you want to keep these things undercover. So your competition won't find out what you're doing, right suppose. But that topic, it was so much fun. I thought that I'd had original conspiracy theories [00:10:01] about New Coke because my theory that I thought was original, it was not, I thought that they introduce new Coke so that they could secretly replace sugar with high fructose corn syrup.

Syrup. I hope original and then bring it back in people be like, yeah, this is what I remember. [00:10:16] I loved it. But that is not true. I have a theory was bleep out that that was true. And it wasn't that the high fructose corn syrup was was actually introduced into Coke about five years before New Coke was released. So it was already out in America. [00:10:31] Although I guess I do still kind of sort of believe that it could have been a conspiracy is a conspiracy. If it's corporate. I think it's especially conspiracy if it is, but

Also kind of like your day-to-day but just like a plan. Yeah, this [00:10:46] is our plan as a super clever reverse psychology marketing experiment. I do kind of still think that that could be true. But on the flip side of that Coca-Cola, did you really need any additional help? Yeah. Considering how [00:11:01] much of the world you dominate? I think in the episode, we sort of rejected it as being because of statements from Coca-Cola themselves right saying that they didn't do it.

As a super clever marketing idea, like why would they [00:11:16] reveal that? But knowing how intense the marketing was for Coca-Cola since it's very introduction. Like as soon as Asa Candler, got a hold of it. He immediately began producing tchotchkes with the Coca-Cola logo [00:11:31] on it and commercials and just very specific instructions about what the commercials should be like and contain a company that is that I'm trying to think that is.

Yeah, anal retentive about their marketing strategy. [00:11:46] They really didn't have any idea that new Coke was going to be controversial, right? I think maybe even a bigger conspiracy though. Is this how did New Coke get rejected? And yet we have something called Beverly that is [00:12:01] still being produced as far as I know, by the Coca-Cola Company. Oh, Beverly in 2008. Yeah. I think we were lucky.

To be able to attend Dragon Con in Atlanta, Georgia. [00:12:16] And DragonCon is a big multi fandom convention. It's a huge. Multi fandom. Yeah, it's not. I was surprised. I don't think I really realized how many different kinds of fandoms. There were [00:12:31] and like having them all under one roof. But it's like Star Wars Star, Trek furries, furry zombies robotics, every kind of calm.

Laughter, I'm a pi mean even some like crafts. The Tesla people. [00:12:46] Yeah, I guess they were steampunk. Yeah, but it seemed very, I don't know. True Blood. Yeah, so we went and I found it. Super fun and I would definitely go again, but we weren't exactly. We weren't dressed up. [00:13:01] No, I mean, we were very spectator participants and Dragon Con. Yes, and can I tell you what? I, what I chalk that up to because I

Love all nerdy things. I could not choose [00:13:16] even if I wanted to try like, what? Like, what do I want to be? I couldn't even choose. I just love it. All you have to wear a costume to DragonCon. Now. What are you picking? Sunnydale? Vampire Cheerleader? I like it. It's really hot [00:13:31] and humid in Atlanta. Even in September boy. Oh boy. Yeah, so it seems like a costume and then the rooms are packed with people. I mean maybe less so in the covid year, but the room

Packed with people and it's really warm in there. So it seems like the cheerleader [00:13:46] outfit. It's going to be really cool and Breezy. You throw on some vampire teeth. People love Buffy. I love Buffy. It's interesting that you say that because I was thinking that you were going to go just straight horror, but Buffy, but that is [00:14:01] actually has a horror element with the Vampire. You show your bite on your neck, bleeding down, your cheerleading outfit. I think you can make it work. I think you absolutely could one of my

Favorite costumes that we saw there were amazing costumes, but [00:14:16] one of my favorite was seeing such a person in cardboard boxes as a robot doing the time warp and The Rocky Horror Show. Okay. Was amazing. I mean it was literally just cardboard boxes, like a slightly [00:14:31] smaller cardboard box on the head and then a larger one on the body. It's like how you would have made your robot costume back in the late 70s, basically, spray paint.

Couple of cardboard boxes and fit them around your body, very that, [00:14:46] and God bless him his dedication because it could not have been easy. I assume he wore it all day. We just saw him doing the time. Warp at a special Rocky Horror screening in the evening time, but I assume he was probably walking around in that [00:15:01] thing all day long. I agree. And even if he just wore it to The Rocky Horror thing. He was still like packed into rows of people and had to maneuver into that Auditorium.

Ettore. I'm at the very least. Yeah, a lot of dedication Wherever You Are [00:15:16] robot-man. We Salute You, we definitely do but talking about DragonCon. Yeah, I know where you were going with this. Yes, it took me a long time to get there. But as part of the stuff that we did, while we were there. We went to the World of Coca-Cola. [00:15:31] The World of Coca-Cola. It's basically the headquarters of Coca-Cola in Atlanta. I don't know if it's their corporate headquarters. It's more like a museum. It's more like a museum. I doubt it's their actual core.

Headquarters the formula for Coke is allegedly there. They [00:15:46] moved it to a vault from the bank, where they had kept it and it's on display. Although I do not remember seeing it. Actually. I'm not going to lie to you sister pretty much. The only thing I remember about that trip to the World of Coca-Cola was The Tasting [00:16:01] Room. Oh my God, it's this massive space and it has these, I don't know. I'm going to say there was at least 20 to 30 different.

Current Islands in this space. And each island has a [00:16:16] soda machine. And each soda machine. Obviously it has about, you know, six different soda spouts. Yeah. I think I read there's 200 different products or something, or 500 products, and we, tasted every [00:16:31] really did when it was so sick and sticky. Looking back in the time of covid. It seems like, I mean, you know, let's put on the other hand, we weren't, you know.

Unless you were sucking it straight out of the spout in which case, Christine [00:16:46] I should have kept a better eye on you. I cannot remember anything that I loved enough to suck it out of the spout. There was something pineapple. Oh, I swear is from that was the other really fun thing, is that all of these products, not all of them are sold in the United States. A lot [00:17:01] of the products are exclusively in certain countries. For example, the grotesque Beverly is an Italian soda, an actual apologies to anyone, listening to us, and Italy, Italy America.

Erica's, do not have the same taste. Whoa, profile. Italy. [00:17:16] What is going on with your palate later? So I better. I feel like all of the Italian Coca-Cola products were bitter. Yes, like maybe they all contained quinine. Like that [00:17:31] kind of like that kind of strange tonic, what? Which I actually don't mind tonic water. But in a, when you're thinking soda know that it no tonic water, it was like tonic time, it was like,

Ear wax it tasted like carbonated earwax. Yeah, it was [00:17:46] weird. And I swear my favorite one was a South African drink and I swear it was like a pineapple flavored soda, and it was delicious. Yeah, although quite frankly after drinking Beverly. I suppose anything right plus after a while. [00:18:01] Once you've tried a lot of them. Definitely your taste buds are a little bit. Questioning Your Life Choices. Yes. It's a good segue to our next segment.

Went where we are going to taste test. We're doing [00:18:16] the Pepsi taste challenge. We're going to take the new Coca-Cola zero sugar, which is New Coke Zero. Although it's not called that when I read about it. I literally thought it was going to be called New [00:18:31] Coke Zero. I'm sure they have PTSD from the last time they changed their product. May I like that though? So it does not say that. It says Coca-Cola zero sugar.

Do you remember drinking New Coke when it came out because I do, I [00:18:46] owe you already drank Diet Coke or something at the time. No, I have no recollection of New Coke as a kid. So I would have used to eat sugar straight out of the sugar-bowl. So, of course, I had no problem with those new Coke, but I liked New [00:19:01] Coke. I liked the taste of it and it always I always wondered, why couldn't it have been another product. Right now. You can go to the store and get Coca-Cola Diet Coke, Coke Zero, Coca-Cola.

Cola with mango, like they have these new, like, vanilla Cherry [00:19:16] Cherry. So why couldn't it have been a classic Coke and a new Coke situation? I definitely think at the time there was much less of that. So maybe New Coke did kind of pave the way for multiple flavors [00:19:31] of a single drink. Yeah, I think at the time though, maybe they were thinking sort of along the lines of transitioning from tab to Diet Coke. If you made things too complicated,

You didn't keep that same name like that. Well, I mean obviously New [00:19:46] Coke was called Coke, but maybe they were thinking that they would end up fracturing. They're drinking audience. Yeah, but I don't know why that would be a problem other than you then have to produce all of those things. And I've always wondered and I'm not sure [00:20:01] this is a conspiracy, but I think its borders on conspiracy. Like how do supermarkets stock certain things. So to get your product in a prominent place with enough.

The supplies to make money off of it, isn't there? Some kind of pale [00:20:16] Supermarket? Paola. We're now going to do the Pepsi challenge stand by while we get our Pepsi taste challenged ready to go and then we'll be right back to continue with our experiment. Yes. In hydration know, [00:20:31] in dehydration dehydration, and we're back, and we're back. And you know what? I've always said, Christine, what that? Nothing goes better.

Then lots of technology and sticky Brown fluid. [00:20:48] I feel like this is a recipe for yes. So, does soaked disaster? Okay. So, in front of us, we now each have four Anonymous brown liquid. [00:21:05] They're all soda, right? Or are they ultimately, we're determining.

Being in our blind taste test, which one of these liquids wins out as the Supreme soda. Okay. Okay. My first cup, [00:21:20] which is the least carbonated looking of the drinks and it tastes kind of like nothing to me. Oh, no, I do know. Whoa, wait, this legit taste-off to me. I agree. One of them taste wrong. Yeah, [00:21:35] this one tastes wrong, like seriously, like moldy or something. I mean, doesn't smell weird. I don't see anything.

Floating in it. My first cup I'm going to say tasted like nothing number two was bubbly but didn't look. [00:21:50] Bubbly 3, tasted moldy, but it's still my favorite. No, it was mine. Okay, bro, 3 as in the third one drink. Yeah. I got it. I thought it was ranked. Number 3. Maurice. What you eating [00:22:05] off the carpet? My memories. You are not supposed to be doing the carpet taste challenge.

Color-wise. I really thought that there was going to be a lot of variation in color, and there's none. One thing I will say about the one that [00:22:20] tastes like nothing. I do, like the carbonation level of it, the low carbonation level of it. I think this one has the lowest card. All right. What's your number for? My number four is impossible to read MC, [00:22:35] Mexican Coke from a glass bottle made with 60% sugar cane by 40%.

Fructose corn syrup. Interesting. It didn't taste like sugar to me though. No, it does not taste like sugar to me and I [00:22:50] don't know. I do not like it.

The other reason why soda ill? Yeah, he's bad. It tastes bad. Okay, so we still have that Mom from drinking.

[00:23:06] All right. What was your number three? My number three was hope is 0. Really. My number three was deep penetration. Oh no Diet Pepsi DP [00:23:21] Diet Pepsi. Oh interesting. Yeah my God. Number two. Number two. Okay, so we differed on that one. Yours was Coke Zero. Yeah. Mine was Diet Pepsi. Okay. No, I don't believe it.

Also, don't believe it. My number two is Diet Coke, [00:23:36] so was mine. I thought Diet Coke would be my number one. I also thought that that means you did the Pepsi Challenge and you actually picked Pepsi. Now. I do have to belch. Maybe doing a soda tasting challenge [00:23:51] on it cast isn't the best idea. I mean, it's got to be one of the worst. So we have a listener question for the first time, an actual listener.

Request for the first time an actual [00:24:06] listener question. This is so exciting. Steve S rights in. Tell me what, you know about Jimmy Hoffa and I'll tell you what I knew about Jimmy Hoffa. I thought he was alkapone. The only thing, when I first thought about him, like, oh my God, [00:24:21] that whole Geraldo thing where he was going to try to find Jimmy Hoffa's grave, but he wasn't that was Al Capone's vault or something. Yeah, weird thing, but in my head, those two

Things were connected. What do you know about [00:24:36] Jimmy Hoffa? I know that he was the president of the teamsters labor union. He was a union guy and that and he was like a really important union guy during his time as president. He more than [00:24:51] doubled, the amount of workers who were unionized there was. This whole thing where he was able to basically get all truck drivers under a single Union umbrella.

Allah and those are all like really in my opinion. I'm [00:25:06] pro-union. So those are all really good positive things. Yes. However, and this is in the 1960s, correct? Yes, and I mean he may have become president earlier than that. He was my swear. He was a Teamster president for like 13 [00:25:21] years or something before he started to run into trouble and the trouble that he ran into his that he had mob connections. He was criminal in a lot of ways like jury tampering.

Green. And yeah, like big crimes, [00:25:36] he did time for his crimes. He got a 13-year sentence, but he only served I think three years because Richard Nixon commuted, his sentence. Oh good old wixon interestingly enough after [00:25:51] Nixon commuted Hoffa's sentence, the teamsters overwhelmingly supported Nixon in the next election, even though, previously they had been Democrat, like they traditionally voted Democrat.

Interesting. Yeah, so a little [00:26:06] quid pro quo there, perhaps Jimmy Hoffa's, Nemesis was Bobby Kennedy, uh-huh. Because of how hard Bobby Kennedy was going after the mob and Jimmy Hoffa testified in front of the general attorney. [00:26:21] Robert Kennedy in 1957 in a senate hearing and famously, like did the whole high school boy, like I'm just scratching my face with my middle finger.

In your general direction, I think the reason Jimmy [00:26:36] Hoffa comes up a lot in conspiracy. Like, I don't think it's a, it's not a conspiracy. He worked with the mob. That's well known like it was obvious. He had mob connections. He often is cited as a man of mystery because of what happened to him [00:26:51] and what did happen to him? Exactly what happened to him. So The Story Goes that on July 30th 1975 Hoffa. He's now out of prison and he is

Trying to claw his way back into [00:27:06] a high position in the Union at that point. Like obviously when he went to prison the union got somebody else's President. Jimmy Hoffa wants his spot back. He sets up a meeting on July 30th 1975 to meet with a couple of gentlemen, who may [00:27:21] or may not have been members of organized crime. They work. Tony Pro AKA Anthony, provenzano, Tony Jack AKA Anthony.

Gia cannelloni. Wow. The same. [00:27:36] He set up a meeting in a Detroit restaurant to meet with these two gentlemen, and they had giant glasses of Beverly on the table. They never showed up. Oh, so Hoffa, pissed that he's been stood up by these guys. He leaves the restaurant. [00:27:51] He makes a couple of calls from a pay phone, one to his wife to bitch about the fact that he'd been stood up and went to his friend to bitch about the fact that he had been stood up. And then he heads back to his own.

Car that's parked in the parking. Lot of the restaurant Hoffa [00:28:06] was seen speaking to three unidentified men in a burgundy-colored Mercury Marquis. Now, this car description happens to match the car. That was driven by Joey Jack. Tony Jack son. Tony Jack again being Anthony [00:28:21] GN Colonia, who was like the Godfather of the Geo, Colony family. In Detroit. Yes, in Detroit. Okay, so he's seen talking to three unidentified men in a burgundy. Mercury Marquis. He gets into

A vehicle without a struggle and he is never [00:28:36] seen again alive or dead. Yeah, and that's the mystery. What happened to this guy? The mystery ends in the fact that he's dead. They killed them like the mob killed him. Yes, and actually he was declared legally dead in 1982, but [00:28:51] the mystery comes in as far as what happened to his body, right? I think one of the funniest and one that they've they like tried to prove is that they thought that he might be buried in jail.

Giants stadium. And there was actually a Discovery [00:29:06] Channel show called Mythbusters. They did an episode entitled. The Hunt for Hoffa. They did scans around the giant stadium with ground-penetrating radar to see if they could figure out if there had been [00:29:21] a disturbance. If there was a human body buried, right? Or some kind of kind of here or something exactly. There were no trace of any human remains. And then in 2010, Giants, stadium was demolished and still no.

Remains popped up. So Jimmy Hoffa was not in Giants stadium. [00:29:36] There was another report that he was buried on a savannah golf course that had been popular with Mafia bosses, Savannah Georgia in 2012 in Roseville, Michigan police took samples from a Suburban, Detroit driveway. [00:29:51] After a person had reported witnessing, the burial of a body there around 1975, which dived with Hoffa's disappearance, but they found no human remains a man named Joseph Franco.

Claimed that Hoffa was pushed out of an [00:30:06] aeroplane while still alive over the Great Lakes. Whoa. Yeah. In 2021 February of this year. There was an article in the Daily Mail. A very credible newspaper organization. The title of [00:30:21] it was Jimmy Hoffa is buried in a steel drum at a New Jersey landfill. And this story stated that he was buried at this landfill site after he was murdered by the mafia following a meeting.

Detroit in 1975 that you talked about claims [00:30:36] the Mobsters son. The mobster in question here, is Paul Kappa. Le senior and his son, Frank Capilla is the one who's claiming to know that Hoffa's buried here in this New Jersey landfill site. Because he says, his father was involved [00:30:51] in the burial. He said that his father put the body of Jimmy Hoffa into a steel drum that was then buried on this site that used to belong to his father and is now owned by the, New Jersey.

Department of Transportation, it's a local waste [00:31:06] management site to store unused dumpsters. Capilla says that he didn't name Hoffa's killer, but he says that it was not Frank the Irishman Sheeran. So there's another possible [00:31:21] site. Now they say that they did again the ground radar testing in this New Jersey landfill site and they did find containers buried. It was a site used for dumping at one point. It was a super fun.

Decide which, as we remember from our [00:31:36] Denver airport is this super contaminated site where waste has been buried? Yeah, and that's probably what they were seeing here. But after they discovered that things that were buried, they said that they had reported the information to the police for further follow-up. [00:31:52] So I guess we'll see what if anything. So, is this point, it's up to the New Jersey Police Department to decide if they want to go dig it up. Yes. Dig in this highly, highly laminated nominated.

I don't think it's Jimmy Hoffa and it's Jersey. Yeah, because I don't [00:32:07] think that the Detroit mob had any reason to drive him out of Detroit. Yeah, why would you I do think that this is what happened to Jimmy Hoffa. Once Jimmy Hoffa got into that. Burgundy Marquis. He did the number one thing you never supposed to do. Never go to a second location. [00:32:22] Yeah. So Hoffa was taken to a house nearby. Some people think it could have been the house of a racketeer and Teamster Union, affiliate named Leonard little Lenny show.

Alt or possibly to the house of the Detroit, mobster [00:32:37] Carlo. Licata. Both of those houses are within a one to two mile range from the restaurant where Hoffa was last seen alive. So either of those houses kind of makes sense that they could have gone there and I think both those houses were places where Hoffa had attended meetings before. [00:32:52] Is this based on either confirmed or Anonymous reports of somebody claiming. This is what happened. Yes, and I will get to that he's taken to a house nearby, the restaurant.

And he's given two shots to the head. That part is also probably true because it's [00:33:07] like mob-style, right? And then, they think that Hoffa's corpse was incinerated at Central Sanitation in Hamtramck, Michigan, which was a Detroit mob doand trash company. The sanitation. Belonged to Motor City. [00:33:22] Mafia Lieutenant, Peter Bazi, Vitali, and raffaelli, AKA Jimmy, que causa, Ronnie. As for who did the actual shooting in 2004. Aw.

Sir Charles Brandt wrote a book called, I heard you paint houses, Frank [00:33:37] the Irishman Sharon and closing the case on Jimmy Hoffa. In this book, the author alleges that Frank Sheeran a professional killer for the mob confessed to killing Hoffa. According to Sheeran. He was in that car. They picked up half [00:33:52] of from the restaurant. They drove them to a house in Detroit. He was shot twice in the back of the head and then he was burned and Annex Center incinerator at the at the dump. Interesting thing. I heard you pay.

Ain't houses that title is a reference to mob [00:34:07] code speak, which basically stands for. Do you still kill people for a living? Wow, I heard you paint houses. That would be an unfortunate misunderstanding if you were just trying to get someone to paint your house, right? That's according to this author. [00:34:22] That Frank Sheeran confessed to the killing of is Frank Sheeran. The Irishman, the Irishman of Martin scorsese's. Yes, multi-hour.

That is correct. That is based on that story that I haven't watched [00:34:37] it yet. I although having read more about Jimmy Hoffa. I'm now interested. Yeah. And watching that, although I read a thing that said, it's great Cinema. Terrible history, huh? Yeah, so I guess they take some liberties with their storytelling. Yeah, but I did think it was funny that Tony Jack [00:34:52] when reports first got back to him about Hoffa's, disappearance that he had never showed back up. After the meeting was supposed to take place at the restaurant. Tony. Jack's response was maybe.

Took a little trip.

[00:35:08] Wow, I'll tell you one thing. I know about Jimmy Hoffa though. His vittles name was riddle, James riddle Hoffa which is kind of badass. Is he fold em or so Steve [00:35:23] S. Thanks for your question. Thank you for your question. We really appreciate it. And if you have a question that you want us to ramble through, then all you have to do is reach out to us. You can reach out to us via.

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And then you'll wish that you would just [00:36:08] think about it instead. And then also, if you have some time and you like what you hear, follow us rate US and review our podcast, that would be awesome. I always wanted to do blind taste test. Me too. I've always wanted to do the thing [00:36:23] where you're blindfolded and then someone feeds you so nothing try and guess what? It is. How come I have? Trust issues. I just feel like that would be

Rose. Have you heard about like, dining [00:36:38] in the dark help? Ya completely in the dark. Yeah. It's a weird. I just had this flash, like there's ice where there's a restaurant where you eat in the nude and it's not the same, but my trust issues are acting up again. When [00:36:53] you dine in the dark, all your waiters are nude, but you don't know, I didn't order a sausage. I wouldn't want to do that, but I would be up for another.

Other taste challenge. I think that that [00:37:08] would be interesting. I want to do it because I want to know how good my palate actually is. I don't think mine is good. Obviously, if you're picking Diet Pepsi as your number one, we could try vegetarian, Bacon's seem to something to [00:37:23] look forward to on futuristic irenaeus style. Episode. If you loved this vegetarian bacon, blind taste test. Although I feel

Like that one's going to be kind of harder [00:37:38] to do because they're very different-looking, will have to get over your trust issues will have to blindfold and take a taste of each thing. Mmm. All right, and I will be married.

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